We take these packs off-trail into dense scrub oak and blackberry brambles, and see how vulnerable areas such as bottle pockets and pack bottoms fare in the long run

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I figured other people were overpacking, but this happens even with a reasonable load packed
UPDATED Aug 28th, 2006 MIDDLE FORK of the SALMON RIVER TROUT FISHING Lunch at Elk Bar on Middle Fork of the Salmon River Again I must apologize for lack of fishing reports
If it doesnt lie flat, the tube keeps falling down and gets in the way of our arms