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If their answer is yes, I just smile real polite and say, "OK forget everything they taught you." If you are wanting to target the larger fish, avoid the old standard double drop rig with a heavy bank sinker on the end

The shortened chamber allows the angler to impart sound with minimal jigging distance while maintaining action to the lure

This will keep loops from developing that will cause backlashes later

However, the relationship between nest density and individual tree vole density remains uncertain given that individuals can use multiple nests within a home range (Swingle and Forsman, 2009, McCoy, unpublished data)

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